TUCKER CARLSON: Open race hate forms much of MSNBC’s substance. Yet when it’s pointed out, not everyone agrees that it’s time for an open race war.
But they’re still going to take part in the race war. They’re just going to do it in a different way.
You know, there are a lot of white nationalists who think that in order to advance their ends, it’s going to be necessary to use violence. And there are a lot of people in the white nationalist movement who think that the ends justify the means.
I don’t know why they wouldn’t just use violence on the people who stand in their way, but they’re not going to do it in the form of open race war.
[00:05:30] JEFFREY EPSTEIN: I have to give you credit. For having an argument that seems to withstand the facts, you’ve got to be really good.
TUCKER CARLSON: Well, I’m not a white nationalist. I was going to say, I was going to make a little joke about white nationalists but, you know, you were going to say that you’re not.
JEFFREY EPSTEIN: Oh, I am.
TUCKER CARLSON: I’m not even a white nationalist. I’m a journalist because what I do, you and all the people who you interview, I do to make sure that the conversation that you’re having doesn’t just be one of two perspectives, and that there’s more than one. I’m trying to bring in perspectives from around the country.
That’s why I’m a journalist; I’m trying to make sure that the conversation here in this country gets wider than the two-party system or the two-lobby system that we have. And that’s why I’m a journalist.
I wanted to ask you about something that happened in your life. And that’s when, you know, you got into politics, and you got involved in this movement called the white nationalists, and you found yourself in an uncomfortable situation where you were forced to leave the movement.
JEFFREY EPSTEIN: Oh, yeah.
In the white nationalist movement, the thing that I heard that made me leave the movement was the fact that after I left, it was becoming this place that was full of